Why don’t
you join
our Union ? We are the majority Union in our Bank.
AB
Employee: But, you know that AIBEA is the majority Union in the entire Banking Industry.
If majority is the criteria, as per your own argument, you should join AIBEA.
SBI
Leader: No friend. In SBI, we only sign the Settlements with management.
AB
Employee: May be but most of our service conditions are common today and are governed
by industry-level Bipartite Settlement. AIBEA is the architect of the Bipartite Settlement
in the banking industry. In all the Bipartite Settlements, AIBEA is the main signatory.
Your Union joined the Bipartite Settlement only in 1979 in the 3rdBPS.
AmI
right ?
SBI
Leader: Yes correct, but . . .
AB
Employee:If
signing settlement is the
main point, then you
should join AIBEA because
AIBEA achieved BP Settlement for all.
SBI Leader:
You see we have so many achievements.
AB
Employee: I see, let me ask you some questions about your achievements.
SBI
Leader: Yes please.
AB
Employee: Whether lady employees who join SBI and who
are on probation are eligible
for maternity leave with salary like in my bank ?
SBI
Leader: No. it will be given only on loss of pay.
AB
Employee: So this is your achievement for lady employees.
SBI
Leader: You see comrades, sometimes we have to agree with the management conditions.
AB
Employee: So, at the cost of women employees, you will agree with management condition
to give maternity leave on loss of pay ? This shows that you are against the interest
of omen employees.
SBI
Leader: Sometimes, it happens friend.
AB
Employee: Ok. We know about your Union. What about your CPS Agreement ?
SBI
Leader: Yes, it is very good. We got more allowance.
AB
Employee: So, for the sake of money, you will sign anything ? You have
increased
working hours. Is it not a betrayal ?
SBI
Leader: See, we got more money.
AB
Employee: Yes, you got Petrol allowance also. But your Union agreed to abolish the
entire cadre of Sweepers/safai karamacharis. Thousands of these permanent posts meant
for the poor downtrodden people were abolished/outsourced to get this benefit. Are
you not hitting them below the belt ?
SBI
Leader: See you have to sacrifice something to get something.
AB
Employee: So, you will sacrifice the interest of substaff to get some money.
Ok. In the
CPS, you have also agreed for more mobility to get more allowance. Will not lady
employees be affected by this ?
SBI
Leader: Of course you are right. But sometimes we have to compromise to get more
money. See last year our union got more petrol allowance and newspaper allowance.
AB
Employee: I know that. But to get this money, you have surrendered the basic right.
Now, as per your agreement,
for
minor misconduct,
branch manager can
straightway
give punishment of Rs. 500 as fine without any memo or
charge
sheet or enquiry.
SBI
Leader: Actually I am not aware of this. If it is true , it is wrong.
AB
Employee: It is true, I have seen your Bank Circular which says that your union has
agreed to this.
SBI
Leader: Ok, I will check up.
AB
Employee: What about Compassionate Appointment in your Bank ? Is it available in
your Bank ?
SBI
Leader: No. there
is no Compassionate ground appointments in SBI.
Management
will only give some exgratia to the family.
AB
Employee: So,
even if an employee dies,
money is the only criteria
in
SBI. For the
sake of money, can we forego the scheme
achieved by
AIBEA and UFBU
?
How the
widow and children
of the
deceased employee will survive with sum lumpsum money.
SBI
Leader: I agree with you. Our union should not have agreed to this.
AB
Employee: Because it was agreed in SBI, it has been forced on
Associate
Banks also.
We are suffering because of your union. Now, you want me to join your Union !
SBI
Leader: Sorry friend, our union should have fought on this issue.
AB
Employee: Again,
in CPS, for the sake of some more money, your union has agreed
for extra working hours and heavy workload.
SBI
Leader: It is true, but it only an option.
AB
Employee: Yes, but can we sell our rights like this ?
SBI
Leader: But we will get more money.
AB Employee
:
Ok.
Everything
is money only.
What
about retirement benefits in your
Bank.
SBI
Leader: We have 3 benefits. CPF, Pension and Gratuity. It is our achievement.
AB
Employee
:We
know how 3
benefits came to
SBI. We were getting PF and
Gratuity. You were
getting PF and Pension. Both were getting only 2 benefits. In 1972,
when Govt. made Gratuity Act, this was extended to SBI and not by any struggle or agreement
by your Union. For implementing Gratuity Act in SBI, it is only AIBEA union
in SBI which went to court and got it.
SBI
Leader: Actually I am not aware of this background. But our union says we have 3
benefits.
AB
Employee:
That
is why, in our Bank, we get Gratuity under Bipartite Settlement
without
any ceiling but you are getting Gratuity under
the Act with ceiling.
See,
for example,
General Manager of Associate Bank is getting Gratuity
of Rs.
18 lacs but General
manager of SBI is getting only Rs. 10 lacs.
SBI
Leader: But I am told that Gratuity ceiling under the Act is going to be
increased.
AB
Employee:
Yes,
it is not because of your union. We went on strike on 2 nd
September,
2015 and 2016 demanding increase in Gratuity and so Government is considering
to improve it. But your Union did not join this strike at all.
SBI
Leader: I agree, we should have also gone on strike.
AB
Employee: What
about your Pension scheme. Are
you governed by the same Pension
Settlement like our Bank?
SBI
Leader: No. we are not part of that
AIBEA
Settlement. We have a separate scheme.
AB
Employee: Do you know that in AIBEA Pension Settlement, there is no ceiling on pension
but in your SBI scheme there is a ceiling.
SBI
Leader: Yes. There is a ceiling. Upto that ceiling, we get pension at 50% of
Pay. If you
cross that ceiling, pension is only 40% of the Pay.
AB
Employee: A General manager of my Bank will get Rs. 42,500 as basic Pension on his Basic pay of
Rs. 85,000 but a GM of SBI will get only Rs. 34,000 as Basic Pension.
So you can see that AIBEA pension scheme is better.
SBI
Leader: But we get contributory PF.
AB
Employee: But this is not extended to us. The merger scheme says that we will get it
only after 1-4-2017.
So we
will not get CPF from date of joining, in
addition
there
is ceiling on Gratuity and pension. What about commutation, is it the same like our
Banks ?
SBI
Leader: Why you are asking. I think it is the same.
AB
Employee: No. It
is not the same. In our Bank, when you retire at the age of 60,
the commutation factor is 9.81. But in SBI it is only 6.60. A GM of my Bank
will get
commutation of Rs. 16,67,700 but your GM in SBI will get a commutation of Rs. 8,97,600.
So
there will be huge loss in commutation also. Still
you talk of your
achievements.
SBI
Leader: This I am not aware friend.
AB
Employee: So, women are affected, youngsters are affected, poor
substaff
and part
time staff are affected, seniors will be affected after retirement, even the
families of
your own members will be affected if their bread winners die in harness. Then
what are
your achievements ?
SBI
Leader: See friend. You are confusing me. Please join our Union. We are a non-political
trade union.
AB
Employee: I see. When
Government decisions are taken by a political party, can
you avoid politics in union. What we should be careful about is not to be
divided on
political lines. In AIBEA, members of all political parties are members. Still
we are all
united under one banner. Is your Union really non-political.
SBI
Leader: Yes, yes
AB
Employee: Then
why your union joined the Congress Party’s INBEC during emergency.
Whether Congress is not a political party.
SBI
Leader: At that time, our leaders were under attack. So we joined INBEC. AB
Employee: Ok. On 2nd September,
2015 and 2016, when lacs and lacs of workers of all
trade unions joined the strike against
Government’s anti-worker labour
policies, you
did not go on strike. Is it correct.
SBI
Leader: See you it was a political strike.
AB
Employee: We
demanded jobs
for all, minimum wages for
all workers, pension for
all, improvement in
Gratuity, Maternity leave for all women
workers,
etc. What is wrong
in this. Is it also politics.
SBI
Leader: See you are talking politics.
AB
Employee: When you say, I should leave AIBEA and join your Union, it is also another
politics.
SBI
Leader: Ok friend, I will go now.
AB
Employee: Yes friend, I think that you have started realizing the truth. Please join
AIBEA and we shall protect your rights also.
Hello Comrade, please join my Union . . .
SBI Leader: Dear friend,
Now
you
are an employee of State Bank.
Why
don’t you
join our Union ? We are the majority Union in our Bank.
AB Employee: But, you know that AIBEA is the majority Union in the entire Banking
Industry. If majority is the criteria, as per your own argument, you should join AIBEA.
SBI Leader: No friend. In SBI, we only sign the Settlements with management.
AB Employee: May be but most of our service conditions are common today and are
governed by industry-level Bipartite Settlement. AIBEA is the architect of the Bipartite
Settlement in the banking industry. In all the Bipartite Settlements, AIBEA is the main
signatory. Your Union joined the Bipartite Settlement only in 1979 in the 3
rd
BPS. Am
I right ?
SBI Leader: Yes correct, but . . .
AB Employee:
If signing
settlement
is the main point, then
you should join AIBEA
because AIBEA achieved BP Settlement for all.
SBI Leader: You see we have so many achievements.
AB Employee: I see, let me ask you some questions about your achievements.
SBI Leader: Yes please.
AB Employee: Whether lady employees who join SBI and
who are on probation are
eligible for maternity leave with salary like in my bank ?
SBI Leader: No. it will be given only on loss of pay.
AB Employee: So this is your achievement for lady employees.
SBI Leader: You see comrades, sometimes we have to agree with the management
conditions.
AB Employee: So, at the cost of women employees, you will agree with management
condition to give maternity leave on loss of pay ? This shows that you are against the
interest of omen employees.
SBI Leader: Sometimes, it happens friend.
AB Employee: Ok. We know about your Union. What about your CPS Agreement ?
SBI Leader: Yes, it is very good. We got more allowance.
AB Employee: So, for the sake of money, you will sign anything ? You have
increased working hours. Is it not a betrayal ?
SBI Leader: See, we got more money.
AB Employee: Yes, you got Petrol allowance also. But your Union agreed to abolish
the entire cadre of Sweepers/safai karamacharis. Thousands of these permanent posts
meant for the poor downtrodden people were abolished/outsourced to get this benefit.
Are you not hitting them below the belt ?
SBI Leader: See you have to sacrifice something to get something.
AB Employee: So, you will sacrifice the interest of substaff to get some money. Ok.
In the CPS, you have also agreed for more mobility to get more allowance. Will not
lady employees be affected by this ?
SBI Leader: Of course you are right. But sometimes we have to compromise to get
more money. See last year our union got more petrol allowance and newspaper
allowance.
AB Employee: I know that. But to get this money, you have surrendered the basic
right. Now, as per your agreement,
for minor
misconduct, branch manager can
straightway give punishment of Rs. 500 as fine without any memo or
charge sheet or
enquiry.
SBI Leader: Actually I am not aware of this. If it is true , it is wrong.
AB Employee: It is true, I have seen your Bank Circular which says that your union
has agreed to this.
SBI Leader: Ok, I will check up.
AB Employee: What about Compassionate Appointment in your Bank ? Is it available
in your Bank ?
SBI Leader: No.
there is no Compassionate ground appointments in SBI.
Management will only give some exgratia to the family.
AB Employee:
So, even if an employee
dies, money is the only criteria
in SBI. For
the sake of money, can we forego the scheme
achieved
by AIBEA and UFBU
?
How
the widow and children
of the deceased employee will survive with sum
lumpsum
money.
SBI Leader: I agree with you. Our union should not have agreed to this.
AB Employee: Because it was agreed in SBI, it has been forced on
Associate Banks
also. We are suffering because of your union. Now, you want me to join your Union !
SBI Leader: Sorry friend, our union should have fought on this issue.
AB Employee:
Again, in CPS, for the sake of some more money, your union has
agreed for extra working hours and heavy workload.
SBI Leader: It is true, but it only an option.
AB Employee: Yes, but can we sell our rights like this ?
SBI Leader: But we will get more money.
AB Employee
:
Ok.
Everything is money only.
What about retirement benefits in
your Bank.
SBI Leader: We have 3 benefits. CPF, Pension and Gratuity. It is our achievement.
AB Employee
:
We know how
3 benefits
came
to SBI. We were getting
PF and
Gratuity.
You
were getting PF and Pension. Both were getting only 2 benefits. In
1972, when Govt. made Gratuity Act, this was extended to SBI and not by any struggle
or
agreement by your Union. For implementing Gratuity Act in SBI, it is only AIBEA
union in SBI which went to court and got it.
SBI Leader: Actually I am not aware of this background. But our union says we have
3 benefits.
AB Employee:
That is why, in our Bank, we get Gratuity under Bipartite
Settlement
without any ceiling but you are getting
Gratuity
under the Act with ceiling.
See, for
example, General Manager of Associate Bank is getting
Gratuity
of Rs. 18 lacs but
General manager of SBI is getting only Rs. 10 lacs.
SBI Leader: But I am told that Gratuity ceiling under the Act is going to be increased.
AB Employee:
Yes, it is not because of your union. We went on strike on 2
nd
September, 2015 and 2016 demanding increase in Gratuity and so Government is
considering to improve it. But your Union did not join this strike at all.
SBI Leader: I agree, we should have also gone on strike.
AB Employee:
What about your Pension scheme.
Are you governed by the same
Pension Settlement like our Bank?
SBI Leader: No. we are not part of that
AIBEA Settlement. We have a separate
scheme.
AB Employee: Do you know that in AIBEA Pension Settlement, there is no ceiling on
pension but in your SBI scheme there is a ceiling.
SBI Leader: Yes. There is a ceiling. Upto that ceiling, we get pension at 50% of Pay.
If you cross that ceiling, pension is only 40% of the Pay.
AB Employee: A General manager of my Bank will get Rs. 42,500 as basic Pension
on his
Basic
pay of Rs. 85,000 but a GM of SBI will get only Rs. 34,000 as Basic
Pension. So you can see that AIBEA pension scheme is better.
SBI Leader: But we get contributory PF.
AB Employee: But this is not extended to us. The merger scheme says that we will
get it only after 1-4-2017.
So we will not get CPF from date of joining,
in addition
there is ceiling on Gratuity and pension. What about commutation, is it the same like
our Banks ?
SBI Leader: Why you are asking. I think it is the same.
AB Employee:
No. It is not the same. In our Bank, when you retire at the age of
60, the commutation factor is 9.81. But in SBI it is only 6.60. A GM of my Bank will
get commutation of Rs. 16,67,700 but your GM in SBI will get a commutation of Rs.
8,97,600.
So there will be huge loss in commutation also.
Still you talk of your
achievements.
SBI Leader: This I am not aware friend.
AB Employee: So, women are affected, youngsters are affected, poor
substaff and
part time staff are affected, seniors will be affected after retirement, even the families
of your own members will be affected if their bread winners die in harness. Then what
are your achievements ?
SBI Leader: See friend. You are confusing me. Please join our Union. We are a
non-political trade union.
AB Employee: I
see.
When Government decisions are taken by a political party,
can you avoid politics in union. What we should be careful about is not to be divided
on political lines. In AIBEA, members of all political parties are members. Still we are
all united under one banner. Is your Union really non-political.
SBI Leader: Yes, yes
AB Employee:
Then why your union joined the Congress Party’s INBEC during
emergency. Whether Congress is not a political party.
SBI Leader: At that time, our leaders were under attack. So we joined INBEC.
AB Employee: Ok. On 2
nd
September, 2015 and 2016, when lacs and lacs of workers
of all trade unions joined the strike against
Government’s
anti-worker
labour policies,
you did not go on strike. Is it correct.
SBI Leader: See you it was a political strike.
AB Employee:
We demanded
jobs for all, minimum
wages
for all workers, pension
for all,
improvement
in Gratuity, Maternity leave for all women
workers, etc. What is
wrong in this. Is it also politics.
SBI Leader: See you are talking politics.
AB Employee: When you say, I should leave AIBEA and join your Union, it is also
another politics.
SBI Leader: Ok friend, I will go now.
AB Employee: Yes friend, I think that you have started realizing the truth. Please
join AIBEA and we shall protect your rights also.
Page2of4SBI Leader: Dear friend,
Now
you
are an employee of State Bank.
Why
don’t you
join our Union ? We are the majority Union in our Bank.
AB Employee: But, you know that AIBEA is the majority Union in the entire Banking
Industry. If majority is the criteria, as per your own argument, you should join AIBEA.
SBI Leader: No friend. In SBI, we only sign the Settlements with management.
AB Employee: May be but most of our service conditions are common today and are
governed by industry-level Bipartite Settlement. AIBEA is the architect of the Bipartite
Settlement in the banking industry. In all the Bipartite Settlements, AIBEA is the main
signatory. Your Union joined the Bipartite Settlement only in 1979 in the 3
rd
BPS. Am
I right ?
SBI Leader: Yes correct, but . . .
AB Employee:
If signing
settlement
is the main point, then
you should join AIBEA
because AIBEA achieved BP Settlement for all.
SBI Leader: You see we have so many achievements.
AB Employee: I see, let me ask you some questions about your achievements.
SBI Leader: Yes please.
AB Employee: Whether lady employees who join SBI and
who are on probation are
eligible for maternity leave with salary like in my bank ?
SBI Leader: No. it will be given only on loss of pay.
AB Employee: So this is your achievement for lady employees.
SBI Leader: You see comrades, sometimes we have to agree with the management
conditions.
AB Employee: So, at the cost of women employees, you will agree with management
condition to give maternity leave on loss of pay ? This shows that you are against the
interest of omen employees.
SBI Leader: Sometimes, it happens friend.
AB Employee: Ok. We know about your Union. What about your CPS Agreement ?
SBI Leader: Yes, it is very good. We got more allowance.
AB Employee: So, for the sake of money, you will sign anything ? You have
increased working hours. Is it not a betrayal ?
SBI Leader: See, we got more money.
AB Employee: Yes, you got Petrol allowance also. But your Union agreed to abolish
the entire cadre of Sweepers/safai karamacharis. Thousands of these permanent posts
meant for the poor downtrodden people were abolished/outsourced to get this benefit.
Are you not hitting them below the belt ?
SBI Leader: See you have to sacrifice something to get something.
AB Employee: So, you will sacrifice the interest of substaff to get some money. Ok.
In the CPS, you have also agreed for more mobility to get more allowance. Will not
lady employees be affected by this ?
SBI Leader: Of course you are right. But sometimes we have to compromise to get
more money. See last year our union got more petrol allowance and newspaper
allowance.
AB Employee: I know that. But to get this money, you have surrendered the basic
right. Now, as per your agreement,
for minor
misconduct, branch manager can
straightway give punishment of Rs. 500 as fine without any memo or
charge sheet or
enquiry.
SBI Leader: Actually I am not aware of this. If it is true , it is wrong.
AB Employee: It is true, I have seen your Bank Circular which says that your union
has agreed to this.
SBI Leader: Ok, I will check up.
AB Employee: What about Compassionate Appointment in your Bank ? Is it available
in your Bank ?
SBI Leader: No.
there is no Compassionate ground appointments in SBI.
Management will only give some exgratia to the family.
AB Employee:
So, even if an employee
dies, money is the only criteria
in SBI. For
the sake of money, can we forego the scheme
achieved
by AIBEA and UFBU
?
How
the widow and children
of the deceased employee will survive with sum
lumpsum
money.
SBI Leader: I agree with you. Our union should not have agreed to this.
AB Employee: Because it was agreed in SBI, it has been forced on
Associate Banks
also. We are suffering because of your union. Now, you want me to join your Union !
SBI Leader: Sorry friend, our union should have fought on this issue.
AB Employee:
Again, in CPS, for the sake of some more money, your union has
agreed for extra working hours and heavy workload.
SBI Leader: It is true, but it only an option.
AB Employee: Yes, but can we sell our rights like this ?
SBI Leader: But we will get more money.
AB Employee
:
Ok.
Everything is money only.
What about retirement benefits in
your Bank.
SBI Leader: We have 3 benefits. CPF, Pension and Gratuity. It is our achievement.
AB Employee
:
We know how
3 benefits
came
to SBI. We were getting
PF and
Gratuity.
You
were getting PF and Pension. Both were getting only 2 benefits. In
1972, when Govt. made Gratuity Act, this was extended to SBI and not by any struggle
or
agreement by your Union. For implementing Gratuity Act in SBI, it is only AIBEA
union in SBI which went to court and got it.
SBI Leader: Actually I am not aware of this background. But our union says we have
3 benefits.
AB Employee:
That is why, in our Bank, we get Gratuity under Bipartite
Settlement
without any ceiling but you are getting
Gratuity
under the Act with ceiling.
See, for
example, General Manager of Associate Bank is getting
Gratuity
of Rs. 18 lacs but
General manager of SBI is getting only Rs. 10 lacs.
SBI Leader: But I am told that Gratuity ceiling under the Act is going to be increased.
AB Employee:
Yes, it is not because of your union. We went on strike on 2
nd
September, 2015 and 2016 demanding increase in Gratuity and so Government is
considering to improve it. But your Union did not join this strike at all.
SBI Leader: I agree, we should have also gone on strike.
AB Employee:
What about your Pension scheme.
Are you governed by the same
Pension Settlement like our Bank?
SBI Leader: No. we are not part of that
AIBEA Settlement. We have a separate
scheme.
AB Employee: Do you know that in AIBEA Pension Settlement, there is no ceiling on
pension but in your SBI scheme there is a ceiling.
SBI Leader: Yes. There is a ceiling. Upto that ceiling, we get pension at 50% of Pay.
If you cross that ceiling, pension is only 40% of the Pay.
AB Employee: A General manager of my Bank will get Rs. 42,500 as basic Pension
on his
Basic
pay of Rs. 85,000 but a GM of SBI will get only Rs. 34,000 as Basic
Pension. So you can see that AIBEA pension scheme is better.
SBI Leader: But we get contributory PF.
AB Employee: But this is not extended to us. The merger scheme says that we will
get it only after 1-4-2017.
So we will not get CPF from date of joining,
in addition
there is ceiling on Gratuity and pension. What about commutation, is it the same like
our Banks ?
SBI Leader: Why you are asking. I think it is the same.
AB Employee:
No. It is not the same. In our Bank, when you retire at the age of
60, the commutation factor is 9.81. But in SBI it is only 6.60. A GM of my Bank will
get commutation of Rs. 16,67,700 but your GM in SBI will get a commutation of Rs.
8,97,600.
So there will be huge loss in commutation also.
Still you talk of your
achievements.
SBI Leader: This I am not aware friend.
AB Employee: So, women are affected, youngsters are affected, poor
substaff and
part time staff are affected, seniors will be affected after retirement, even the families
of your own members will be affected if their bread winners die in harness. Then what
are your achievements ?
SBI Leader: See friend. You are confusing me. Please join our Union. We are a
non-political trade union.
AB Employee: I
see.
When Government decisions are taken by a political party,
can you avoid politics in union. What we should be careful about is not to be divided
on political lines. In AIBEA, members of all political parties are members. Still we are
all united under one banner. Is your Union really non-political.
SBI Leader: Yes, yes
AB Employee:
Then why your union joined the Congress Party’s INBEC during
emergency. Whether Congress is not a political party.
SBI Leader: At that time, our leaders were under attack. So we joined INBEC.
AB Employee: Ok. On 2
nd
September, 2015 and 2016, when lacs and lacs of workers
of all trade unions joined the strike against
Government’s
anti-worker
labour policies,
you did not go on strike. Is it correct.
SBI Leader: See you it was a political strike.
AB Employee:
We demanded
jobs for all, minimum
wages
for all workers, pension
for all,
improvement
in Gratuity, Maternity leave for all women
workers, etc. What is
wrong in this. Is it also politics.
SBI Leader: See you are talking politics.
AB Employee: When you say, I should leave AIBEA and join your Union, it is also
another politics.
SBI Leader: Ok friend, I will go now.
AB Employee: Yes friend, I think that you have started realizing the truth. Please
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